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But she couldn't remember the date, the dress she said she was wearing wasn't even being made, she didn't remember huge unforgettable details that EVERY rape victim has seared in her memory. She has repeatedly said she just wanted to 'get trump' and obviously has severe TDS. This was a bull*** hit job by a deranged individual and a nonsense 'jury of your peers' that was obviously political and dubious if it ever even happened. But keep beating the lie that trump raped if you feel lying for your political cudgle is really worth you telling a known lie, it's not your first! Some of us will call your crap.
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Did Donald Trump rape E. Jean Carroll?
Here's what a jury and judge said.
USA TODAY
When E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump went to trial last spring over her sexual assault allegations, a nine-person civil jury found that Trump sexually abused her but that she failed to prove he raped her.
The former president made hay of that distinction when he sued Carroll in June, alleging Carroll defamed him by saying she was raped in a media interview after the verdict.
The counterattack was quickly shot down.
Federal Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled in August that the jury verdict showed Carroll's rape allegation was "substantially true" and dismissed the counterclaim.
Here's what a jury and judge said.
USA TODAY
When E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump went to trial last spring over her sexual assault allegations, a nine-person civil jury found that Trump sexually abused her but that she failed to prove he raped her.
The former president made hay of that distinction when he sued Carroll in June, alleging Carroll defamed him by saying she was raped in a media interview after the verdict.
The counterattack was quickly shot down.
Federal Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled in August that the jury verdict showed Carroll's rape allegation was "substantially true" and dismissed the counterclaim.
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Liar, he was never convicted of rape. I can't believe how you support political lawfare just because you hate trump so much! You throw out truth, honesty, fairness just because you don't agree with your fellow coutrymens choices.
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So I guess its okay if we send rapists there? Well I know where we can find one well-known rapist at a popular address. He even has a residence in Florida although he currently is living in Washington DC.
Too easy. Funny how for a political movement so concerned about sexual assault MAGA has so many serial sexual assaulters.
Or maybe it is only rape if you aren't a powerful white man?
Too easy. Funny how for a political movement so concerned about sexual assault MAGA has so many serial sexual assaulters.
Or maybe it is only rape if you aren't a powerful white man?


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Well if it's a person who rapes young teenagers for hours and then brutally murders them and it's discovered they've been deported repeatedly and NEVER should have been here EVER it gets a little different! Maybe alligators (only if they escape detention BTW) tearing them apart is kinda ok. Such manipulative fools!
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Heirs and Alligator Alcatraz
I am heartbroken and deeply embarrassed to be associated in any way with a geography, group, or community that could find joy, pride, or satisfaction in the thought of alligators tearing apart human lives. The mere idea that such suffering could be celebrated or justified grieves my heart. I can’t help but wonder how many of those being held in “Alligator Alcatraz” are actually heirs to salvation and the Kingdom of God?
Galatians 4:4-7
‘’But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.” So you are no longer a slave, but God’s child; and since you are his child, God has made you also an heir.’’
Romans 8:16–17
“The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ…”
Galatians 3:29
“If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
As believers, we are eager to claim the promises of God for ourselves. We read scripture and find comfort in knowing we are chosen, loved, and destined for eternal life. But far too often, we draw a line around who those promises are for. Surely they apply to me, we think. But not to them, the asylum seeker, the immigrant, the desperate dreamer risking it all for a chance at a better life.
Scripture doesn’t give us permission to inhibit the reach of God’s compassion. Scripture actually reminds us that we were once foreigners, strangers to the covenants of promise (Ephesians 2:12–13), until mercy found us. We didn’t earn our place at the table. It was grace, and grace alone, that seated us as sons and daughters.
So who are those in Alligator Alcatraz? They are either already our brothers and sisters in Christ—co-heirs of the same promises we hold, or they are potential heirs, still waiting to hear that they are loved, that they are seen, that Jesus came for them too. The Great Commission has never been geographically exclusive. Neither was the cross.
Instead of seeing them as people Jesus died to save, we reduce them to headlines. Labels. Numbers. Threats. We allow culture to disciple us into fear, hate, and dehumanization. We conveniently forget these are the people Jesus calls us to go to.
“I was a stranger and you did not invite Me in… whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.” (Matthew 25:43,45)
Maybe it’s time to reread Luke 10:25-37 The Parable of the Good Samaritan
We can debate immigration policy. We can have different views on borders and law. But the posture of our hearts, our compassion, our acts of mercy are not optional for those who call themselves disciples of Jesus.
“By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:35)
The world is watching. What are they seeing in us? Compassion or cruelty? Mercy or mockery?
I have seen more hatred, more pride, and more greed surrounding this issue than my heart can comfortably carry. We should be grieved, this should drive us to our knees in repentance and prayer. We are spiritual heirs not because we were born into the right country, but because Jesus covered our filthy rags of sin and separation from Him. Do not forget the high cost of that grace. Do not ignore how freely that same grace must flow through us to others.
Heirs and Alligator Alcatraz
I am heartbroken and deeply embarrassed to be associated in any way with a geography, group, or community that could find joy, pride, or satisfaction in the thought of alligators tearing apart human lives. The mere idea that such suffering could be celebrated or justified grieves my heart. I can’t help but wonder how many of those being held in “Alligator Alcatraz” are actually heirs to salvation and the Kingdom of God?
Galatians 4:4-7
‘’But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.” So you are no longer a slave, but God’s child; and since you are his child, God has made you also an heir.’’
Romans 8:16–17
“The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ…”
Galatians 3:29
“If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
As believers, we are eager to claim the promises of God for ourselves. We read scripture and find comfort in knowing we are chosen, loved, and destined for eternal life. But far too often, we draw a line around who those promises are for. Surely they apply to me, we think. But not to them, the asylum seeker, the immigrant, the desperate dreamer risking it all for a chance at a better life.
Scripture doesn’t give us permission to inhibit the reach of God’s compassion. Scripture actually reminds us that we were once foreigners, strangers to the covenants of promise (Ephesians 2:12–13), until mercy found us. We didn’t earn our place at the table. It was grace, and grace alone, that seated us as sons and daughters.
So who are those in Alligator Alcatraz? They are either already our brothers and sisters in Christ—co-heirs of the same promises we hold, or they are potential heirs, still waiting to hear that they are loved, that they are seen, that Jesus came for them too. The Great Commission has never been geographically exclusive. Neither was the cross.
Instead of seeing them as people Jesus died to save, we reduce them to headlines. Labels. Numbers. Threats. We allow culture to disciple us into fear, hate, and dehumanization. We conveniently forget these are the people Jesus calls us to go to.
“I was a stranger and you did not invite Me in… whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.” (Matthew 25:43,45)
Maybe it’s time to reread Luke 10:25-37 The Parable of the Good Samaritan
We can debate immigration policy. We can have different views on borders and law. But the posture of our hearts, our compassion, our acts of mercy are not optional for those who call themselves disciples of Jesus.
“By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:35)
The world is watching. What are they seeing in us? Compassion or cruelty? Mercy or mockery?
I have seen more hatred, more pride, and more greed surrounding this issue than my heart can comfortably carry. We should be grieved, this should drive us to our knees in repentance and prayer. We are spiritual heirs not because we were born into the right country, but because Jesus covered our filthy rags of sin and separation from Him. Do not forget the high cost of that grace. Do not ignore how freely that same grace must flow through us to others.
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Florida has a very proud history of feeding vulnerable people with an unpopular skin color to alligators:
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/blac ... da-6531453
Vern and Ken will love that!
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/blac ... da-6531453
Vern and Ken will love that!


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Just a definition. From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp
Sure sounds like this site fits into that definition to me.A concentration camp is a prison or other facility used for the internment of political prisoners or politically targeted demographics, such as members of national or ethnic minority groups, on the grounds of national security, or for exploitation or punishment.


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Not a "concentration" camp! Lying is also a very big sin, hypocrite.
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