Can someone explain why?

[mister_coffee]

You say all that and yet you voted for and (presumably) still support this monster:

Donald and Ivanka Trump, from December 1995 Instyle magazine.

I don't think you really mean it.

[Jingles]

But Jim, you misunderstand. The severe penalties are only for people who vote for Democrats. Powerful Republicans get a free pass and can commit all the crimes they like in plain sight.

Maybe political affiliations matter to you but I personally don't give a rats azz if repub dem, independent, black, white brown or purple with rainbow pokadots and yes if a person is a perv with children they need to be permantly removed from the living gene pool and the later preferably before the bleeding heart judges can intervene

[mister_coffee]

...Once a person is contained it would be murder to kill them when the facilities are available for lifetime containment. thou shalt not kill... It means murder to me. It is not murder to kill in self-defense or in the defense of the innocent.

This. Exactly.

The idea that LSD is a recreational drug is a dangerous and sickened. This drug has medical use but only under the tightest of control of the environment. The danger level of this LSD is extreme and should not be played with.

We should keep in mind that there are many people who used LSD over the years with no apparent damage. Even if you acknowledge that it is a high risk activity (and it is a very high risk), it is likely considerably lower risk than (say) any opiate, meth, or cocaine.

[tristanbgilb]

Sorry. I was just remembering my lessons in Muslim and LSD Psychotherapy. LSD can open up the subconscious helping to bring understanding to the psychopath. I was just reacting to whoever this murderer might be. I don't really know who you are talking about. I was thinking it must be the psychopath in the Idaho Murders. Once a person is contained it would be murder to kill them when the facilities are available for lifetime containment. thou shalt not kill... It means murder to me. It is not murder to kill in self-defense or in the defense of the innocent. I find Muslim at fault with the violence infested in their system of mind control.

LSD Psychotherapy is awful. It would really have to be a volunteer inmate. I just believe this treatment should be available to those that have no place in society. LSD causes short term and maybe long-term psychosis. However, it could bring hope of understanding the need to repent.

I followed the research of Sidney Cohen and Stanslav Grof to dig into my subconscious mind. The results were interesting. I remembered Trauma after trauma I went through in my childhood. Tonsillectomy and this time I was awake through it. I remembered and felt broken arms. Everything that the subconscious hides to protect the consciousness.

With that I must admit was a high price. I went some years as a pumpkin head. That is the term for someone who fried their brain on psychedelics.

I think it could really induce some healing with Psychopaths that will never be released from prison. Psychedelic treatment can be made safe in a place of containment.

The idea that LSD is a recreational drug is a dangerous and sickened. This drug has medical use but only under the tightest of control of the environment. The danger level of this LSD is extreme and should not be played with.

[mister_coffee]

And the facts don't care about right-winger's feelings.

1. It is well-demonstrated that pursuing the death penalty costs far more than just putting someone in prison for the rest of their lives.
2. There is zero evidence that the death penalty deters crime.

Any claims otherwise are sourced from voices inside your head. Making sh*t up doesn't constitute a thesis.

[mister_coffee]

But Jim, you misunderstand. The severe penalties are only for people who vote for Democrats. Powerful Republicans get a free pass and can commit all the crimes they like in plain sight.

[just-jim]

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Since you feel that way about those who kill children, Vern…..I would guess you might also hold the same views and therefore have the same plans for those perverts who abuse underage girls?
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Especially those that are already convicted Felons?
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Good to know! Happy hunting!!!
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[Jingles]

You want to do that to Jingles? Who is him?

Will not say I would want to do it but can say I could sleep with a clear conscience after putting a bullet through the heart, or pulling a lever on someone duly convicted of a triple homicide. And certainly would not have any qualms about it if the person happens to be convicted of suffocating 3 children in fact yes I'd volunteer for that one. I only hope he is armed and tries to put up a fight and they thrown so much lead into him they have to declare him a hazardous waste site due to lead contamination.

[PAL]

You want to do that to Jingles? Who is him?

[tristanbgilb]

I think you put him in solitary confinement with heavy metal music and dosing him with massive doses of LSD

[Jingles]

From what I see in the responses there are,a bunch of bleeding hearts that do not feel a person should be held accountable for their actions, but believe the person doing the wrong did it because they either didn't know better or had a troubled childhood and should be rehabilitated, even with the modern science of video florencics and DNA confirmation.

[mister_coffee]

Considering 195 people released in 52 years avgerages out 3.75 per year says that overall the state had it right probably 99.99% of the time, which is acceptable. Firing squad training is not that costly in fact probably get volunteers from expert marksmen

You need to take some remedial math classes. 195 being 0.01% of something implies that something is around 1.95 million. Which is quite an overstatement.

Also, who says you get to decide what is "acceptable" in this context? I'd sure as hell not consider it "acceptable" if I was incorrectly convicted of a crime and executed, and I doubt you would either.

The dollar costs of executions far exceeds the cost of life imprisonment. That's all you need to know your argument is stupid.

[tristanbgilb]

As a Christian I must forgive him

Yet I AM Muslim
first chop off his legs so he can't run away
then you chop off his dick and stuff it in his mouth
and as he cries for mercy you chop off his head

Rasta is peaceful plant diets
herbal medication

Jews are great

Hindu understand karma

[Jingles]

Considering 195 people released in 52 years avgerages out 3.75 per year says that overall the state had it right probably 99.99% of the time, which is acceptable. Firing squad training is not that costly in fact probably get volunteers from expert marksmen

[mister_coffee]

False economy, false security, and a false read of what justice costs.

1. **Dollar-for-dollar, the death penalty is the more expensive option.**
Every competent state audit shows that capital cases cost millions more than life without parole once you add
- two full trials (guilt + penalty)
- decades of mandatory appeals and habeas review
- death-row segregation and heightened security
- execution-team training and equipment
Example: a 2016 Oklahoma study pegged the extra cost per execution at ~$700 k above a life sentence; in California the figure is $308 million per execution. Your $3.50 in bullets or $20 in rope is the rounding error at the very end of a process that soaks taxpayers for years.

2. **We already make mistakes; the death penalty makes them irreversible.**
Since 1973 at least 195 Americans have been released from death row after evidence proved they were innocent (some within days of execution). Life without parole at least lets the state say “we were wrong” and unlock the door.

3. **Constitutional due-process is not a buffet you can skip to save money.**
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee that any punishment—especially the ultimate one—must pass strict judicial scrutiny. That requirement exists precisely because the founders distrusted government power. You cannot wave it away by calling inmates “wastes of taxpayer funds.”

4. **Public safety is already secured by life without parole.**
The person can never re-offend; modern super-max design ensures that. If the goal is incapacitation, we have it at a lower price and without risking a wrongful execution.

Bottom line: the cheapest, safest, and least error-prone sentence for the worst crimes is life without parole. The death penalty is the luxury option that costs more, kills the occasional innocent, and still fails to deter better than life behind bars.

[Jingles]

A person is convicted of 3 separate murders and recieves 3 consecutive life sentences without chance of parole. Why should this person be incarcerated in a prison for 3 life sentences on the taxpayers dime for food, clothing, medical, dental and everything else instead of just being injected, hung or shot?
Talk about a total waste of taxpayer funds, 308 rounds $.50 per round x7 equals $3.50, 223 rounds $ .25 per round x 7 equals $1.75, new rope figure $1.00 per foot x20 feet equals $20.00. Figure 50 years in prison at say even $15,000 per year (probably more) equals $750,000.
Stand him up against the wall pew,pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, saved the state $749,998.25.