Pasayten's Methow Valley Bulletin Board

I'll just keep saying it.

If any other person in your life or in your community had the same fact pattern involving women of any age as Donald Trump has, you'd have nothing to do with that person. If that person had any position of responsibility or authority you'd be moving heaven and earth to get them out of that position.

Regarding redactions, laugh of the day or maybe the week.
It is not made up that Trump was associated with Epstein, until the falling out.

Talk about a cult! When Biden is full on senile, 'nope seems fine don't believe your own eyes'. When there's no actual evidence, 'we just make things up and pretend there's evidence to back it up'.

A prediction of what the redactions are going to look like:

“At ____ Tower in New York, a man indentified by vicitms as _____ __ ______ was seen with 12 females. Of them 4 appear to be underage and all had been trafficked by _________. Video confirms that _______ _ _____ knew this and still engaged in ______ acts with ____ of the victims. The person identified as _____ __ _____ is heard saying “_____ my friend, good friend, best ever, fantastic” before ______ inside a ______ then horse was _______ to ______ the ______ of the ______ _____ ______ lawnmower.

Another link as to why..
https://carlynbeccia.substack.com/p/the ... nt-release

So much is still being dug up. This post delves into the lawsuit the US Virgin Islands brought against the Epstein estate, which was eventually settled for $105 million
https://annepmitchell.substack.com/p/wo ... irect=true

What will Melania and Trump lose? Their reputations? Melania's visa revoked? If there are any charges, what would they be? They will slither out of it.
No denying, that Trump did celebrate that Thanksgiving with Epstein. That would indicate a friendship of some kind.

The reality was that most modeling agencies in the late 1990s and early 2000s, including Trump Model Management, were essentially human trafficking operations.

According to one Rep, there are over 1,000 hours of video that can be released. There is still more available from the Epstein estate as well as Wolff's cache. Trump and Epstein, according to both Trump and Epstein, were best friends and it was Epstein who introduced Trump to Melania. They had a falling out over the Florida mansion they both wanted to buy but the now released files demonstrate that they stayed friends, after all Trump celebrated his first Thanksgiving at Mar a Lago with Epstein, per the now released sets of emails.

Melania's illegal visa was acquired via the modeling agency nest of vipers that was a part of Trump's circle. She has no doubt a fair amount to lose along with Trump himself when the full details are revealed.

Trump is mentioned so much because Epstien hated him (probably b/c he wouldn't get caught up in Epstiens webs of manipulation and possibly Trump got Epstien arrested/prosecuted way back) but tons of dems gave zero shits about working with Epstien, getting advice, taking his money and covering up/ignoring his heinousness. We'll see how well all those people are held accountable by the public and media.

The other reason the information was not released and nobody else was prosecuted is that it all was likely well past the statute of limitations and charges could not be brought. Most of the real damning child sexual abuse and trafficking evidence was likely fifteen years old, or much older, when Epstein was finally arrested on federal charges in 2019.

So even if there was video from 1998 of Donald Trump raping a little girl they can't bring charges.

DOJ is not supposed to release evidence it collects when it is not making a righteous case.

My bet is that we are never going to see most of the information and that they are going to play cute with releasing anything at all. Which while from their standpoint they might feel they have no choice will be politically catastrophic for them.

During the Biden admin there couldn't be a release of the Epstein files because of the Maxwell appeal that was pending.
Both Reps and Dems voted for the Transparency Act, which was a big surprise to Johnson who had counted on Thune making amendments and then the plan was to send it back to the House where it would become tied up in more amendment battles and then die. Instead, Schumer brought the Bill forward unchanged in the Senate. Note that both Dem and Rep Senators know there will be members of their Party, like Larry Summers and Trump who will be exposed.

FYI, because of the released emails we already know that Bill Clinton was never on Epstein's infamous island, but likewise we do know that Trump's name is by far the most frequently mentioned.

Oh weird, I thought congress just voted, you mean there were huge changes in the courts that just now happened too? Yeah, bull***!

Ken. Quiet Piggy!

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Because from 2021 to 2025 the Administration was prevented from doing so by very strict Court Orders. You know….back in those ‘olden days’ when an Administration ACTUALLY followed the orders of a Court….

But dont let that stop you from continuing to stick up for, defend, and apologize for some sick puke….
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Funny, because they never 'brought' it when they were in charge. Why exactly was that? Oh, that's right they only 'care' when they think it will get the orange monster, they've never actually cared about the victims.

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This guy lays it out pretty well…..

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2000454183860360
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I haven't seen a Dem yet who has said they are in any way resistant to the transparency because there are any Dems involved. It's more an attitude of Bring It!
On the other hand, Trump and his enablers have fought tooth and nail to obstruct this, until Trump realized he could rely on Bondi to open an investigation and use that as an excuse not to release the files to the public.

Boy have they! Turns out Epstien hated Trump but was sure good friends with lots of Dems. Biggest backfire ever?! Now we watch how you guys dismiss this.

Here's what's in the Transparency Bill
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... rency-act/

Wow! The House passes the discharge petition with 1 opposing vote, and then the Senate passes it quickly with unanimous consent.

The winds are shifting here.

Yes, and just read that MTG stopped attending mass after she became a mother, citing her disappointment with the way the Catholic Church handled the abuse of young boys by their leaders. So, makes even more sense about her decision with the Epstein files. The joint presser she participated in this morning with some of Epstein's victims and 2 other (R) Congressmembers, in anticipation of Wed's vote, was profound.

Actually MTG was raised Catholic, not evangelical.

I have to wonder what it is about cults that so encourage child sexual abuse?

Given some of the things we know well about Donald Trump:

1. Morals and ethics have never got in the way of doing whatever he feels like doing. The only thing that keeps him from doing something is the risk of getting caught.
2. He has been found judicially to have committed sexual assault. And there have been numerous additional accusations of sexual assault.
3. He has publicly bragged about getting away with sexual assault (ref: the Access Hollywood tape).
4. He has a long history of public statements about young women and girls (and actions around them) which were inappropriate or just plain creepy. Including about his own daughter.
5. He brags about cheating on his taxes.
6. He has a well-documented history of cheating on his spouses.
7. He has a well-documented history of cheating at golf.
8. His record of business dealings is a cesspit of corruption and fraud.

That track record is consistent with an extremely corrupt, degenerate person of low moral character. So it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he raped females under the age of 18 if he thought he could get away with it. In fact, in the absence of clear information to the contrary I'd consider it a safe bet that he did.

Bruce Fanger:
"The Zealot’s Wobble: MTG’s Identity Quake
White Rose USA — November
Marjorie Taylor Greene didn’t break — she wobbled. And for someone built entirely out of conviction, that single tremor means more than a hundred political defections. Greene has always been understood backwards. People think she’s a strategist, a grifter, a carnival-barker, a walking press release. But beneath the noise, she’s something simpler, and far more volatile: a believer whose entire sense of self is fused to a story.
She grew up in the deep pews of Southern evangelical Christianity, where life is explained through cosmic warfare and moral binaries. The world is divided into saved and doomed, righteous and corrupt, chosen and deceived. That worldview didn’t prepare her for nuance — it prepared her for crusades. It didn’t give her intellectual tools — it gave her emotional armor. She carried that worldview everywhere she went.
CrossFit didn’t replace church; it extended it. A new form of revival — tribal, ascetic, punishing, ecstatic. Every rep a ritual. Every personal record a confirmation. But physical intensity couldn’t feed the spiritual hunger forever.
QAnon was waiting to catch her next fall.
And it felt familiar.
Revelation rewritten with hashtags.
Prophecy coded in drops.
Hidden evil, chosen warriors, the final storm — everything she’d been primed to believe since childhood.
And then came Donald Trump, the perfect vessel for a life spent searching for a savior. She didn’t support him politically — she anointed him spiritually. He became the warrior-king in the modern Book of Revelations she carried around in her head. She entered Congress like someone entering a revival tent, and she performed accordingly — rebuking demons rather than debating peers.
Her marriage fell away.
Her old life burned behind her.
Her faith wasn’t broken — it was redistributed.
Church → CrossFit → Conspiracy → Trump.
One fused, continuous, unbroken religion.
And then the Epstein files cracked the story.
To normal Republicans, Trump’s Epstein ties are a scandal.
To Greene, they’re a theological contradiction.
Epstein is the avatar of evil in the mythology she’s built.
Trump is the chosen warrior meant to destroy that evil.
To see the two intertwined is not hypocrisy — it is cosmic dissonance.
So she lashed out.
And then she apologized.
Not out of strategy, but out of existential panic.
Zealots don’t calculate.
Zealots cling.
Her outburst was heartbreak; her apology was fear.
Not of Trump — but of her identity splintering.
A believer whose savior suddenly looks mortal is not rebelling. She’s drowning.
That tiny moment — that wobble — matters.
Because movements don’t crack when leaders defect.
They crack when true believers hesitate.
When the priestess trembles, the congregation feels it.
And for one beat, Marjorie Taylor Greene trembled.
Annotated Source List
Evangelical upbringing / worldview context
TIME Magazine profile detailing Greene’s childhood, family dynamics, and religious culture.
Time.com, “Marjorie Taylor Greene Is a Political Star…,” May 2022.
Reporting on Greene’s church involvement and Christian nationalist framing.
The Atlantic, “The Roots of MTG’s Politics,” 2021.
Family background
Obituary and public records for Robert David “Bob” Taylor.
Funeral Innovations Obituaries, April 2021.
Family business structure and roles.
Taylor Commercial Inc. corporate filings (Georgia).
CrossFit period & affairs reporting
Investigative report on Greene’s gym involvement and personal relationships.
Daily Mail (2012–2016 period reporting), supplemented by Business Insider summaries.
QAnon adoption
Documentation of Greene’s Q posts and engagements.
Media Matters archive of deleted Facebook posts.
Analysis of her conspiratorial worldview.
NBC News, “QAnon’s Influence on MTG,” 2021.
Trump devotion & congressional persona
Congressional record and public statements.
C-SPAN archives (2019–2025).
Greene’s framing of Trump as anointed warrior.
Public speeches; Breitbart and RSBN interviews.
Epstein–Trump connections
Known photos, flight logs, and timelines.
Miami Herald, Julie K. Brown’s investigative series.
Trump Model Management visa cases.
New York Daily News, 2014; The Guardian, 2016.
Trump’s comments on Epstein.
1992 and 2002 on-record interviews.
MTG apology moment
Public statements posted after backlash.
AP News / Greenville News political desk (2025)."